Tailwheel spring snapped

Ask Questions and Offer Advice Related to the Cessna 120 & 140 Type
Forum rules
You must be a member of the Cessna 120-140 Association in order to post new topics, reply to existing topics, or search for information on this forum. Use the "Join" link in the red menu bar.
Post Reply
8099
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name:
Aircraft Type:
Occupation-Interests:
Contact:

Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 8099 »

Was taxying across some grass after returning from a flight and the bottom tailwheel spring snapped off just in front of the bolt/connection to the tailwheel itself. Obviously left me with a tailwheel dangling on the chain with little chance of steering - glad it happened as I was pulling up to the hangar and not on landing.

Any suggestions on why this may have happened - metal fatigue? Could the fact the tailwheel tyre was replaced prior to this flight by the maintenance workshop have anything to do with it (I can't really imagine a wrong assembly could have been the issue...?)?

And more importantly, what would be quickest and/or lowest cost remedy - should I replace with a complete set of new springs (my a/c is sub 14000 serial number) or can I simply replace the longest bottom one? Also, since I would like to get it done asap, should I expect any other parts that need to be replaced from taking apart the spring assembly?

Many thanks for your thoughts!
VIP337
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: Bill Rhoades
Location: KFBL MN
Aircraft Type: C-120
Occupation-Interests: nwa Retired
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by VIP337 »

I would replace the entire spring stack. along with bolts at both ends of the spring. it is not all that uncommon. If you should happen to go to Oshkosh or the 140 Convention you will see quite a few of our airplanes with doublers on the lower rudder. In fact my 120 might have a repair.


Bill
6277
Posts: 233
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: Ray Hunter
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Aircraft Type: C-140
Occupation-Interests: Retired AF, retired B-17 pilot for Michigan Flight Museum
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 6277 »

Good reply, replace the entire stack. Use an AN 6 bolt to connect the spring set to the tail wheel attach bracket. Some were produced with an AN 5 bolt which is not adequate...later models used AN 6.
8099
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name:
Aircraft Type:
Occupation-Interests:
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 8099 »

Thanks heaps for your replies. Since both of you recommend replacing the whole stack, just wondering why the individual springs are sold separately rather than only as a stack?

I imagine it should be a fairly easy fix as long as I can place the tail onto a support or does the rudder have to be removed to access the upper bolt? Will those springs have to be treated/painted or can I assume they are protected against rust?

@337 - not quite sure what a doubler is.
VIP337
Posts: 31
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: Bill Rhoades
Location: KFBL MN
Aircraft Type: C-120
Occupation-Interests: nwa Retired
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by VIP337 »

If you are lucky the last person will have installed the bolt upside down and the rudder will not have to be removed. I haven't looked lately but I think the springs can be bought individually - owner's choice. A doubler is a repair. When the spring breaks the tailwheel will go bouncing along on it's chains damaging the bottom of the rudder. Be sure to replace the attach bolts and don't be surprised to see a rubber hose as a bushing on the attach bolt. There a couple of different spring sets. Maybe someone on the web site can comment on the different styles. Another problem is the springs go flat and change the angle on the tailwheel and that aggravates tailwheel shimmy.

Bill
6277
Posts: 233
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: Ray Hunter
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Aircraft Type: C-140
Occupation-Interests: Retired AF, retired B-17 pilot for Michigan Flight Museum
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 6277 »

I tried to attach a pdf article to this message, but the system wouldn't allow it. Call me 734 645-3187
User avatar
6643
Posts: 2432
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: John C
Location: KLCI, NH
Aircraft Type: 1946 C140/C90
Occupation-Interests: A&P, semi-retired
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 6643 »

Neal Wright wrote a great article on tail wheel springs and attachments. I know Rob is working to restore them. Hopefully it'll happen soon.
6277
Posts: 233
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name: Ray Hunter
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Aircraft Type: C-140
Occupation-Interests: Retired AF, retired B-17 pilot for Michigan Flight Museum
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 6277 »

I have Neal's article on a pdf, but it's too large to try and attach to a PM and for some reason has the wrong file extension to attach here, which is pdf.
8099
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue May 01, 2018 7:00 am
Name:
Aircraft Type:
Occupation-Interests:
Contact:

Re: Tailwheel spring snapped

Post by 8099 »

Thanks again everyone!

@6277 - if the article you tried to send me was the Neal Wright one "CESSNA 120/140/140A TAILWHEEL Spring Set Details, Mysteries and Secrets", I have found it.. Need to get through the 17 pages first though.. ;)

@337 - Bill. Fortunately the leaf broke where it attaches to the tailwheel itself as I transitioned from the taxiway to the grass area, so it only dragged a little on the remaining spring without damaging the rudder. Not sure about the upside bolt, need to check.

Unless I am mistaken, I will order this leaf set - seems to be all I need apart from replacement bolts? - http://www.univair.com/cessna/cessna-12 ... pring-set/
Post Reply